NGC 2366 (UGC 3851, Mrk 71) Galaxy in Camelopardalis

Located at: RA 07 hours 28 minutes 53 seconds, Dec +69 degrees 12 minutes 44 seconds

Size: 8.2' x 3.3' Magnitude: 11.5 blue Class: IB(s)m HII*

North is up

West to the right


 14.5" f5 Newtonian reflector


  ST-8XME, self-guided, binned 1x1, temp -15c, camera control MaxIm DL 4.56


Lumicon Red filter,  850 minutes (85 x 10 minute subs), 01/13/14/15/16/2015; seeing 2.7-4.7 FWHM per CCDStack


CCDStack 2.85.5478.25761, Photoshop CS5.1


 Rolling Roof Observatory, Thousand Oaks, CA 91360 (+34d 13m 29s -118h 52m 20s)

Notes: * Still imaging around the weather ... The north has been 'clearer' than the south, so I'm missing all the southern seasonal objects for this new moon period ... As usual with these high declination objects, NGC 2366 was imaged in my imaging 'window' just above my neighbor's house, up to the 'occulting branch' in the pine tree to my north (see north view from inside the observatory). See NGC 2336 imaged just before NGC 2366.

From the NGC/IC Project:

Contemporary Visual Observation(s) for NGC 2366
NGC 2366 = U03851 = MCG +12-07-040 = CGCG 330-038 = Mrk 71 = PGC 21102
07 28 55.0 +69 12 57
V = 11.1;  Size 8.1x3.3;  SB = 14.6;  PA = 25d

18" (3/19/04): at the SW end of the galaxy is a very bright knot (HII region), 
roughly mag 12.5 and perhaps 15" in size which responds to a UHC filter at 160x!  
At 323x this knot is irregular in shape (~20"x15", SW-NE) and brightness and at 
moments resolves into two or three components.  The galaxy itself is fairly 
faint, large, and very elongated SSW-NNE, 3.5'x1.0' with a low surface 

13.1" (1/11/86): fairly faint, very large, elongated 5:2 SW-NE, low almost even 
surface brightness.  An unusually bright HII region is at the SW end of the 
galaxy (2' from the center) and appears as a "fuzzy" 12th magnitude star.  
Although very small it seems elongated SW-NE and similar to a poorly resolved 
double star.  Definite contrast gain with OIII filter.

Discovered by WH (III 748).  This NGC dec is about 11' too far S.  WH's 
description "vF, vS, has a vF branch nf" actually describes the HII region at 
the SW end with the main body of the galaxy as Herschel's "vf branch nf."  
Copeland's description at Birr Castle clearly places the surrounding objects 
(stars and nebulous objects) with respect to the HII region!  Most modern 
sources have incorrectly identified the large HII knot as N2363.

- by Steve Gottlieb
Historical Research Notes / Correction for NGC 2366
NGC 2363 and NGC 2366.  Well, folks, it's bad news for those of us who have 
always identified NGC 2363 as the giant HII region in the low surface 
brightness irregular galaxy NGC 2366.  WH's original description clearly 
refers to the HII region as the principal object with the bit of fuzz to the
north as an incidental appendage.

This view was further solidified by Ralph Copeland, observing with Lord
Rosse's 72-inch reflector.  Copeland identified the HII region as the center
of an greatly extended object, stretching 9 or 10 arcmin to the northeast.
He lists micrometric measurements of seven different objects in the
surrounding area, and all are clearly refered to the HII region.  Here is a
list of his measurements, along with mine (made from the POSS1 blue print):

               Copeland         Corwin        Note
   Object    P.A.   Dist.     P.A.   Dist.
   *  9.5     6.3   214.9      7.5   211
   * 10     337.9   191.9    335     193
   * 10     340.8   235.8    339     236
   *  8     351.0   396.6    351.5   400
   Dif neb  265.9    71.4    274      70.5    Copeland quadrant error?
   Neb *    318.0    77.6    318      75.2    Star sup on F ext of galaxy
   "Tail"    30.9 [9-10min]   31     8min+-   Main body of the galaxy

So, the historical record is unmistakeable:  NGC 2366 is the HII region.  We
can, of course, also include the rest of the galaxy under this number, since
it was certainly seen.  For the sake of the modern catalogues, this is also 
certainly the best thing to do.

But what then is NGC 2363?  One of Copeland's micrometric measures above --
for the "Diffused nebulosity preceding" -- is the one that Dreyer put into
the NGC with the note "III 748 s[outh] f[ollowing]."  This, combined with
Copeland's measurement which Dreyer used, clearly points to the smaller object
that we now call UGC 03847 = MCG +12-07-039 (N2366 is U3851) -- it is NGC 
2363, not the HII region.  I have usually taken this object to be a detached 
star cloud of N2366, but Steve Odewahn has shown through his detailed study of 
the velocity fields of the objects that it is indeed a separate galaxy 
interacting with N2366.

So, we have two galaxies here, along with two NGC numbers clearly attached to
each one.  We shall just have to get used to calling the HII region
"Markarian 71" (or one of its other names) since it is not N2363 as we've 
thought all these years.

There is still one other nebulous object seen by Copeland in the area.  This
is the "Nebulous star or nebulous knot" which is listed in the table above.
Why didn't Dreyer include it in the NGC, too?  Other objects with just that
sort of description were included.  While this is an unanswerable question,
it's possible that Dreyer had access to other notes that were not published.
Or, since he and Copeland were colleagues at the time, the two of them may 
well have decided that the object was a star.  The object is indeed a star
superposed on a faint extension of NGC 2363.  There may also be a distant
background galaxy adding to the appearance of nebulosity -- see the lovely
200-inch photographs in the Revised Shapley Ames Catalogue (page 113) and in 
the Carnegie Atlas (Panel 327). - Dr. Harold G. Corwin, Jr.

* NED classification